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« Reply #765 on: August 07, 2009, 03:00:08 AM »

Question for anyone who feels like answering:  can Minor Creation be used to create a black hole?  There's no limit on the mass or density of the object being created - just its size.  If you're holding a little ball of iron and specify that you want to create a chunk of iron an inch wide weighing, say, fifty solar masses, bam, you've destroyed the entire planet (and system).

And if yes: can Prestidigitation be used to do the same?  Its wording is a little vaguer.
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« Reply #766 on: August 07, 2009, 03:40:06 AM »

Just buy a bag of holding and put a portable hole in it.
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« Reply #767 on: August 07, 2009, 06:26:37 AM »

I'm going to say no to Minor Creation for this reason: You must have a tiny piece of matter of the same sort that you are creating. Yes, you could have iron, but if you make it so dense as to weigh fifty solar masses in (lvl) cubic feet, it's not really iron anymore. Chemically, the two substances wouldn't be the same, just made of the same components.

I'm going to say no to Prestidigitation for this reason: The items created by Prestidigitation are extremely fragile. Again, nothing with the density required to make a black hole could possibly be labeled as extremely fragile.
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« Reply #768 on: August 07, 2009, 06:35:39 AM »

Okay, so if I get my hands on some degenerate matter, then I can create a black hole.  Seems difficult enough.
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« Reply #769 on: August 07, 2009, 07:50:34 AM »

If you did manage to get your hands on degenerate matter, wouldn't it already be a black hole? Huh
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« Reply #770 on: August 07, 2009, 06:20:11 PM »

Nope.  Degenerate matter is compressed enough that the Pauli exclusion principle forces all its particles into higher quantum states, but not so much that it collapses into a singularity.  It's what neutron stars and white dwarfs and the like are made of.
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« Reply #771 on: August 08, 2009, 09:45:01 PM »

Oh the things I would never learn anywhere else.
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« Reply #772 on: August 09, 2009, 07:23:15 AM »

Nope.  Degenerate matter is compressed enough that the Pauli exclusion principle forces all its particles into higher quantum states, but not so much that it collapses into a singularity.  It's what neutron stars and white dwarfs and the like are made of.
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« Reply #773 on: August 12, 2009, 04:29:24 AM »

So this just in I like 4e DnD.  Why?  Let me paraphrase some of the text from the Player's Handbook, under the "dragonborn" entry:

Play a dragonborn if you want:

- to have breath attacks
- to favor the warlord, fighter, and paladin classes
- to be the proud heir of an ancient, fallen empire
- to look like a dragon

That's hilarious to me.  I don't know why.  No, wait, I do know why.  It's like, rather than saying that you can play as a part-dragon and have the awesomeness be implied, they are so trying to appeal to the WoW generation that it's no longer beneath them to go ahead and say, "Fighter: has 1d10 HD, base attack bonus of +1, proficiency with all simple and martial weapons, and looks totally sweet in platemail."
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« Reply #774 on: August 12, 2009, 01:45:12 PM »

oh, sannit Roll Eyes
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« Reply #775 on: November 08, 2009, 09:30:36 PM »

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